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Re: Ancestor lineages on Stuemmler.
"Dear Mr. Holz, "After our telephone conversation yesterday, I wondered if it wouldn't make sense to let you have all the names and dates I have collected over time to this 'Komplex'. Because there are three (3) lineages with the Stümmler family name, it is not easy to figure out how these generations connect. "The origins are clear, but with all three fathers, the dilemma begins: "MARTIN, (No. 234) could by his lineage be a son of BERNHARD, but among the children from his marriages, there is NO MARTIN. "KONRAD again could be a brother of BERNHARD, but, here too, nothing could be found in the church registers. In any event, in this case, STEPHAN STÜMMLER could be his father, although, there are no matching baptismals. "This gives way to suspicion that these two respective FATHERS may have had DIFFERENT BIRTH NAMES and that the baptisms were entered with those names.That could fit the curious fact that with CONRAD, all children were baptized under the name WESTERMEIER, and with STEPHAN, the oldest in the row, the birth name seems to have been a different one, too. "But that all of them were somehow connected shows via the god parents, as it is especially noticable with the god parents of the respective children. "All of it combined explains the whole problem in this case. Even though, it is about a 'Vollmeyerhof' (full mayer estate) and not just a piddly little farm, the city archives contain nothing at all, and my various researches didn't reveal the least of any origin of the Stümmlers. "In our conversation there was mention about the Mormon archives, to which I, unfortunately, have no contact. It might, therefore, help if you, if possible, could make use of that source, espacially since you found the marriage of MARTIN in there. Maybe, there are still more dates which could lead to the solving of this puzzle. "Finally, I would still like to mention that all efforts at the Paderborn's Archbishop Archives in the search for fitting notations or postings in their church records were to no avail, and that in spite of really far-reaching efforts by my two partners." With best regards, (signed) W. A. Schmitz |
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Nr. 117 | Stümmler, Angela Maria | |||
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= July 30, 1739 | Boke | * in Holsen | ||
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+ March 25, 1811 | Holsen | |||
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oo July 23, 1763 | Boke | |||
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Nr. 116 | Jürgensmeyer, Johann Martin | |||
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= January 25, 1736 | Boke | * in Holsen | ||
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+ May 19, 1805 | Holsen | |||
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Children | ||||
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= August 12, 1764 | Joan Rotgerus | Godparents: | Joannes Hermann Schulten from Holsen, Joan Rotgerus Stumeler, Angela M. Beine | |
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= January 4, 1767 | Johann Bernard | Godparents: | Joannes Bernard Hewer Schulten from Verlar, Joh. Stephen Hassen from Holsen | |
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= January 4, 1770 | Anna Eva Maria | Godparents: | Anna Eva Jürgensmeyer from Holsen, Angela M. Berens from Boke, J. H. Schulten from Anrepper | |
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= November 13, 1771 | Joannes Jodocus | Godparents: | J. Jodocus Schulten, Jo. Wilh. Schlten from Anreppen, C. M. Henkemeyer from Holsen | |
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= March 10, 1774 | Joan Stephen | Godparents: | Joannes Stephen Fraune, Joannes Friedr. Schulten, A. M. Loseken, all from Holsen | |
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= February 24, 1777 | Joes Martinus | Godparents: | Joa. Martin Stumeler, Theodorus Wilh. Beine from Holsen, M. E. Schulte from Anreppen | |
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= February 16, 1778 | Anna Maria Theodore | Godparents: | Angela Marie Jürgensmeyer, Anna Maria Gerz, wife of the Sexton, Martin Kroes from Anreppen | |
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= May 26, 1781 | Joes Franciscus | Godparents: | R. D. Josephus Grüppen, St. Anna, Boke, A. Gertrud Picht from Anreppen, teriaria ord. St. Franciscus | |
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= March 10, 1784 | Anna Angela Margaretha | Godparents: | Angela Marg. Fischer from Winkhausen, Joes. Georgius Berensmeyer from Heitwinkel | |
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= March 10, 1784 | Anna Maria Gertrudis | Godparents: | Maria Gertrudis Henckemeyer from Holsen, Joes. Friedr. Kroesr from Anreppen |
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Nr. 234 | Stümmler, Martin | |||
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* about 1695 | cannot be found | |||
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+ December 8, 1743 | Holsen | 48 years old | ||
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oo I May 26, 1718 | Boke | Fischers, Catharine Maria | from Mantinghausen | |
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oo II May 7, 1737 | Boke | |||
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Nr. 235 | Beinen, Anna Maria | |||
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= May 1, 1718 | Boke | * in Holsen | ||
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+ August 25, 1783 | Holsen | |||
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Children | ||||
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= March 16, 1738 | Anna Angela | Godparents: | Anna Angela Lampenn from Anreppen, Stephan Beinen from Holsen, Maria Bertels from Holsen | |
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= March 16, 1739 | Angela Maria | Godparents: | Angelas Margaretha Beine from Holsen, Joan Rötger from Rebbeke | |
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= March 13, 1742 | Anna | Godparents: | Anna Angela Bertelsmeyer and Joes Theodorus Beine from Holsen | |
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oo II of Nr. 235 | ||||
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oo February 16, 1744 | Boke | with Beine, Joes Rotgerus from Mantinghausen | 6 children from 1745 to 1759 |
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The parents of Nr. 254 = Martin Stümmler are not known and can only be presumed. |
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Nr. 233 | Stümmeler, Eva Maris | |||
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= June 15, 1709 | Boke | * in Holsen | ||
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+ February 6, 1736 | Holsen | 25 years old | complications from childbirth | |
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oo February 22, 1735 | Boke | |||
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Nr. 232 | Jürgensmeyer, Johannes Bernardus | oo II March 5, 1737 in Boke | with Schmidt, Eva Cath. | |
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= January 25, 1736 | Boke | * in Holsen | = January 25, 1758 Holsen | |
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+ May 19, 1805 | Holsen | 4 children | ||
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= January 25, 1736 | Joannes Martinus | Godparents: | Martinus Berensmeyer from Verlar, Joes Stephan Moring and Angela Maria Hüser |
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Nr. 466 | Stümeler, Bernhard | |||
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* about 1656 | cannot be found; | presumably also in Holsen | ||
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+ September 20, 1736 | Holsen | |||
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oo I November 17, 1686 | Boke | with Brunners, Anne | + February 19, 1693 in Holsen | |
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(3 children from 1687 to 1692) | ||||
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oo II January 11, 1695 | Boke | with Scheiffers, Margarethe | ||
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(6 children from 1695 to 1704) | ||||
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oo III March 7, 1707 | Boke | |||
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Nr. 467 | Berensmeyer, Angela Maria | |||
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= August 16, 1678 | Hörste | * in Verlar | ||
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+ July 2, 1720 | Holsen | 44 years old | complications from childbirth | |
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Children | ||||
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= June 13, 1709 | Eva Maria | Godparents: | Eva Maria Jürgens, Bienen (?) Collen | |
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= September 20, 1711 | Johanna Maria | Godparents: | Anna Margaretha Stummeler from Holsen | |
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= March 17, 1716 | Catharina Maria | Godparents: | Catharine Berens from Verlar | |
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=April 28, 1718 | Anna Maria | Godparents: | Anne Maria Bertrems from Enkhausen | |
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oo IV | October 23, 1721 | Boke | with Oelsmeyer, Anna Maria | |
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(2 children from 1722 to 1728 | born in Boke, | baptised in Holsen) |
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Nr. 254 | Westermeyer, Joannes Stephan | Father * as STÜMLER | ||
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= January 6, 1701 | Hörste | |||
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+ March 22, 1758 | Verlarn | |||
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oo December 19, 1728 | Hörste | |||
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Nr. 255 | Bölen, Angela Maria | |||
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= October 9, 1703 | Hörste | |||
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+ January 24, 1781 | Verlar | |||
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Children | ||||
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= September 18, 1729 | Bernardus | Godparents: | Adm. R. D. Joes Bernhard Schörmann, Priest | |
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= August 8, 1734 | Anne Eve | Godparents: | Anna Eva Dreike | |
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= May 8, 1737 | Joes Henricus | Godparents: | Bernard Henricus Westermeier | |
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= March 10, 1739 | Anna Maria | Godparents: | Anna Maria Fromme from Ehringhausen | |
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= March 7, 1742 | Angela Margaretha | Godparents: | Eve Bölen | |
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= May 2, 1745 | Anna Maria Elisabeth | Godparents: | Anna Maria Elisabeth Holtgreven, Joan Jodocus Dreiken |
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Nr. 508 | Stümmeler, Conrad | |||
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* about 1670/72 where ?? | cannot be established | |||
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+ January 17, 1672 | Velar | as CONRAD WESTERMEYER | ||
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oo Novemer 10, 1696 | Boke | |||
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Nr. 509 | Schnieres, Clara Angela | |||
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= January 17, 1672 | Boke | |||
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+ December 11, 1728 | Verlar | |||
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Children | All baptized with the name WESTERMEYER | (why??) | ||
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= October 29, 1697 | Anna Maria | Godparents: | Merten Nolte from Heitwinkel, Anna Bertelsmeyer | |
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= March 18, 1699 | Eva Maria | Godparents: | Bartholomäus Holtgreve, Eva Maria Koninghaußen from Boke | |
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= January 6, 1701 | Joes Stephan | Godparents: | Berndts Stumeler, Catharina Bertels | |
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= March 12, 1702 | Joan Berndt | Godparent: | Johann Kötemann | |
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= February 3, 1704 | Anna Angela Gertrud | Godparents: | Arnoldus Schulte (under the oaks) Anna Angela Schnitgers, An . . . from Thüle | |
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= February 2, 1707 | Berndt Henrich | Godparents: | Mertens Stümler, Margaretha Schmiez | |
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= April 7, 1710 | Joes Bergard | Godparents: | Bernhard Holtgreve, Joes Bernhard Beuseler, Catharina Möring from Holsen | |
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= January 25, 1711 | Catharina Maria | Godparents: | Stephen Beine from Holsen, Catharina Maria Nolten from Heitwinkel | |
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oo II of Nr. 509 | July 27, 1717 | with Dreike, Bernhard of Verlar |
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The Stümmler families (Stommler) most likely originate all from the "Vollmeierhof"
STÜMMLERS.
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Nr. ?? | Stummeler, Stephan | |||
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* about 1640 | where ?? | |||
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+ February 26, 1685 | Holsen | |||
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oo around 1660/65 | where ?? | marriage cannot be found | ||
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Nr. ?? | N., Angela | |||
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* about 1640 | where ?? | |||
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+ April 21, 1701 | Holsen | |||
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Seized Children | ||||
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= January 28, 1667 | Henrich | Godparent: | Henricha Gotland | |
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= October 19, 1672 | Martinus | Godparents: | Martinus Schier, schoolteacher in Boke, Anna Schiers from Holsen | |
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= May 1, 1678 | Joannes | Godparents: | Johannes Hüsersmeyer from Holsen |
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It is likely that the married couple STÜMMLER on the VOLLMEIERHOF were not born Stümmlers since
JÜRGEN STÜMMLER maried in 1643, yet there are no children evident (or detectable). Hence, STEPHAN must
have a different birthname, which complicates the research.
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